Backing Up System Databases...

I am rather new to the area of performing DBA type activities (so don't be
too hard on me).
When I create a maintenance plan, which of the system databases should I
choose to back up (if it is not necessary or recommended to back all of them
up)?
Thank you,
JasonBoth master and msdb should be done daily. You could do model every once in
a while. Generally, it doesn't change - unless you choose to add an object
that you want to appear in all future DB's.
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"Jason Richmeier" <JasonRichmeier@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:179C142F-CEBC-4E16-870D-FCC20881E5F3@.microsoft.com...
I am rather new to the area of performing DBA type activities (so don't be
too hard on me).
When I create a maintenance plan, which of the system databases should I
choose to back up (if it is not necessary or recommended to back all of them
up)?
Thank you,
Jason|||Or just include model for daily backup anyway since it's so tiny.
Linchi
"Tom Moreau" wrote:

> Both master and msdb should be done daily. You could do model every once
in
> a while. Generally, it doesn't change - unless you choose to add an objec
t
> that you want to appear in all future DB's.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
> "Jason Richmeier" <JasonRichmeier@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:179C142F-CEBC-4E16-870D-FCC20881E5F3@.microsoft.com...
> I am rather new to the area of performing DBA type activities (so don't be
> too hard on me).
> When I create a maintenance plan, which of the system databases should I
> choose to back up (if it is not necessary or recommended to back all of th
em
> up)?
> Thank you,
> Jason
>

Backing Up System Databases...

I am rather new to the area of performing DBA type activities (so don't be
too hard on me).
When I create a maintenance plan, which of the system databases should I
choose to back up (if it is not necessary or recommended to back all of them
up)?
Thank you,
JasonBoth master and msdb should be done daily. You could do model every once in
a while. Generally, it doesn't change - unless you choose to add an object
that you want to appear in all future DB's.
--
Tom
----
Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
SQL Server MVP
Toronto, ON Canada
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
"Jason Richmeier" <JasonRichmeier@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:179C142F-CEBC-4E16-870D-FCC20881E5F3@.microsoft.com...
I am rather new to the area of performing DBA type activities (so don't be
too hard on me).
When I create a maintenance plan, which of the system databases should I
choose to back up (if it is not necessary or recommended to back all of them
up)?
Thank you,
Jason|||Or just include model for daily backup anyway since it's so tiny.
Linchi
"Tom Moreau" wrote:
> Both master and msdb should be done daily. You could do model every once in
> a while. Generally, it doesn't change - unless you choose to add an object
> that you want to appear in all future DB's.
> --
> Tom
> ----
> Thomas A. Moreau, BSc, PhD, MCSE, MCDBA, MCITP, MCTS
> SQL Server MVP
> Toronto, ON Canada
> https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Tom.Moreau
>
> "Jason Richmeier" <JasonRichmeier@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:179C142F-CEBC-4E16-870D-FCC20881E5F3@.microsoft.com...
> I am rather new to the area of performing DBA type activities (so don't be
> too hard on me).
> When I create a maintenance plan, which of the system databases should I
> choose to back up (if it is not necessary or recommended to back all of them
> up)?
> Thank you,
> Jason
>sql

Backing Up Sys Databases

I currently back up the Master and MSDB sys databases, why do some people say
to back up Model as well? I though this was a standard non enhanceable
database. What are the reprocussions of not backing this database up?
Also what is the best way to back up transaction logs? I am doing an hourly
back up of a production database that has a lot changes through out the day.
I do a full back up once each night. The tran log seems to grow bigger than
the data file when I choose the append option for the log. Can I create
seperate tran log back ups or should I choose overwrite instead of append?
Thanks for your help
-ChrisHi Chris
Model is not non-enhanceable. Model is used as the template whenever a new
database is created, so you can put users, stored procedures, permissions,
datatypes, etc, into model, as well as setting the database properties of
model with ALTER DATABASE, and every new database will inherit those objects
and settings.
The tempdb database is built from model every time your SQL Server starts,
so if you want objects, users, user defined datatypes or special permissions
in tempdb, put them in model.
And then, if you do put any of these objects in model, you can backup model
to make it faster to recreate it in case of system failure.
In the future, I would suggest two different messages for different
questions like you have here. It will make it much easier for everybody, you
and anyone trying to help, to keep track of the discussion.
Do you really mean that your tran log is bigger than the data file, or that
the tran log backup file is bigger than the database backup file? Or
something else?
For a heavily updated database and a day's worth of log backups, it could
happen. But without knowing the size of the db, the rate of changes, the
types of changes and the size of the rows changing, the recovery model of
the database, and probably a few other things, there is no way to tell if it
is TOO big.
To restore from backups to the point of a failure, you need ALL the log
backups since the last full backup. If you use the overwrite option when
backing up the log, you will only have the most recent log back, not the
whole set, and you will be unable to recover anything after the last full
backup. Please read about transaction log backups in the Books Online.
--
HTH
Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
www.solidqualitylearning.com
"Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01280324-7A0E-4EAD-B9A7-567FD9480FFE@.microsoft.com...
>I currently back up the Master and MSDB sys databases, why do some people
>say
> to back up Model as well? I though this was a standard non enhanceable
> database. What are the reprocussions of not backing this database up?
> Also what is the best way to back up transaction logs? I am doing an
> hourly
> back up of a production database that has a lot changes through out the
> day.
> I do a full back up once each night. The tran log seems to grow bigger
> than
> the data file when I choose the append option for the log. Can I create
> seperate tran log back ups or should I choose overwrite instead of append?
> Thanks for your help
> -Chris

Backing Up Sys Databases

I currently back up the Master and MSDB sys databases, why do some people sa
y
to back up Model as well? I though this was a standard non enhanceable
database. What are the reprocussions of not backing this database up?
Also what is the best way to back up transaction logs? I am doing an hourly
back up of a production database that has a lot changes through out the day.
I do a full back up once each night. The tran log seems to grow bigger than
the data file when I choose the append option for the log. Can I create
seperate tran log back ups or should I choose overwrite instead of append?
Thanks for your help
-ChrisHi Chris
Model is not non-enhanceable. Model is used as the template whenever a new
database is created, so you can put users, stored procedures, permissions,
datatypes, etc, into model, as well as setting the database properties of
model with ALTER DATABASE, and every new database will inherit those objects
and settings.
The tempdb database is built from model every time your SQL Server starts,
so if you want objects, users, user defined datatypes or special permissions
in tempdb, put them in model.
And then, if you do put any of these objects in model, you can backup model
to make it faster to recreate it in case of system failure.
In the future, I would suggest two different messages for different
questions like you have here. It will make it much easier for everybody, you
and anyone trying to help, to keep track of the discussion.
Do you really mean that your tran log is bigger than the data file, or that
the tran log backup file is bigger than the database backup file? Or
something else?
For a heavily updated database and a day's worth of log backups, it could
happen. But without knowing the size of the db, the rate of changes, the
types of changes and the size of the rows changing, the recovery model of
the database, and probably a few other things, there is no way to tell if it
is TOO big.
To restore from backups to the point of a failure, you need ALL the log
backups since the last full backup. If you use the overwrite option when
backing up the log, you will only have the most recent log back, not the
whole set, and you will be unable to recover anything after the last full
backup. Please read about transaction log backups in the Books Online.
HTH
Kalen Delaney, SQL Server MVP
www.solidqualitylearning.com
"Chris" <Chris@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:01280324-7A0E-4EAD-B9A7-567FD9480FFE@.microsoft.com...
>I currently back up the Master and MSDB sys databases, why do some people
>say
> to back up Model as well? I though this was a standard non enhanceable
> database. What are the reprocussions of not backing this database up?
> Also what is the best way to back up transaction logs? I am doing an
> hourly
> back up of a production database that has a lot changes through out the
> day.
> I do a full back up once each night. The tran log seems to grow bigger
> than
> the data file when I choose the append option for the log. Can I create
> seperate tran log back ups or should I choose overwrite instead of append?
> Thanks for your help
> -Chris

Backing up Stored procedures

Is there an easy simple way to backup all my personal Stored Procedures.

In the stored procedures collection, my stored procedures start with "DEF".

I would like to have the stored procedures places as text files in a personal backup folder.

Is this possible?

I have the query to get my SP's:

SELECT

*

FROM

SYSOBJECTS

WHERE

xtype='p'AND NameLIKE'DEF%'

ORDER

BY NAME

Next step is how to get the code inside each stored procedure to be exported to a .txt file.

How can I do this?

|||

You should do it at design time if possible.

You can try to send your stored procedure code as attachments in e-mail and next save this attachments or you can get stored procedure code using system stored procedure and save result to flat file output using SSIS package, You can also try to use Bulk copy?. You cannot save to file directly from T-SQL

Thanks

|||

You should do it at design time if possible.

You can try to send your stored procedure code as attachments in e-mail and next save this attachments or you can get stored procedure code using system stored procedure and save result to flat file output using SSIS package, You can also try to use Bulk copy?. You cannot save to file directly from T-SQL except if it will be CLR stored procedure which is probably best way to do it.

Thanks

|||What do you mean by CLR stored procedure ?|||

CLR stored procedure is new for SQL 2005 and allow you to create stored procedure or function in .net language, so you can access database and any available .net stuff, and good thing is that you can run it on SQL serer as standard SQL stored procedure (in the past you had extended stored procedures created in C++).

Thanks

|||

(1) You can also generate the scripts from the DB, Right click on DB -> All Tasks -> Generate Scripts.

(2) You can get the text for a stored proc from syscomments.

(3) You can probably write some application to get the text from syscomments and save it to a file.

|||

With the following query, I get all my SP and the text in the query result.

=====

USE

PDSNT

SELECT

name,text

FROM

sysobjects

INNER

JOINsyscomments

ON

sysobjects.id=syscomments.id

WHERE

xtype='p'AND NameLIKE'DEF%'

ORDER

BY NAME

=====

Next step would be to export them to .xml or .txt file.

Anyone can help?

Backing Up Stored Procedures

How do I Backup stored procedures?Backup the database which contains the stored procedures.
You backup everything in the database when you do a backup.
Not sure if you mean you want the stored procedures separate
from everything else or not but you could script out the
stored procedures if you need something along those lines.
-Sue
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:34:36 -0800, "barb"
<anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>How do I Backup stored procedures?|||We do not need some of the default stored procedures.
Security docs say to drop. I want to backup before I drop
in case I need to add back at later date. How do I "script
out" the stored procedures? Thank you.

>--Original Message--
>Backup the database which contains the stored procedures.
>You backup everything in the database when you do a
backup.
>Not sure if you mean you want the stored procedures
separate
>from everything else or not but you could script out the
>stored procedures if you need something along those lines.
>-Sue
>On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 10:34:36 -0800, "barb"
><anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>.
>|||Right click on the db in Enterprise Manager and choose All Tasks - Generate
SQL Script. Here you can script them all or just selected ones.
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"barb" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1198d01c4106d$70603750$a401280a@.phx
.gbl...
> We do not need some of the default stored procedures.
> Security docs say to drop. I want to backup before I drop
> in case I need to add back at later date. How do I "script
> out" the stored procedures? Thank you.
>
>
>
> backup.
> separate|||Thank You.
-- Andrew J. Kelly wrote: --
Right click on the db in Enterprise Manager and choose All Tasks - Generate
SQL Script. Here you can script them all or just selected ones.
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"barb" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1198d01c4106d$70603750$a401280a@.phx
.gbl...
> We do not need some of the default stored procedures.
> Security docs say to drop. I want to backup before I drop
> in case I need to add back at later date. How do I "script
> out" the stored procedures? Thank you.
> backup.
> separate

Backing up Stored Procedure

Hi,
I am using the Backup Wizard with following statement to backup entire DB
from Development Server.
BACKUP DATABASE [Dev_DB] TO [Dev_DB_Backup] WITH INIT , NOUNLOAD ,
NAME = N'Dev_DB Backup',
SKIP , STATS = 10,
NOFORMAT
It doesnot backup the stored procedures developed.
Is there a way to backup the stored procedures as well through scheduled
task or some script to be run at specific time.
TIA
KayAre you sure, the command above store all the data and the object
definitions (which is actually data stored in the system tables) ?
Please make sure and confirm this.
HTH, jens Suessmeyer.|||Systems table data is not required for the time being. But yes it is.
"Jens" <Jens@.sqlserver2005.de> wrote in message
news:1132850534.307481.196070@.g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Are you sure, the command above store all the data and the object
> definitions (which is actually data stored in the system tables) ?
> Please make sure and confirm this.
> HTH, jens Suessmeyer.
>sql

Backing up Stored Procedure

Hi,
I am using the Backup Wizard with following statement to backup entire DB
from Development Server.
BACKUP DATABASE [Dev_DB] TO [Dev_DB_Backup] WITH INIT , NOUNLOAD ,
NAME = N'Dev_DB Backup',
SKIP , STATS = 10,
NOFORMAT
It doesnot backup the stored procedures developed.
Is there a way to backup the stored procedures as well through scheduled
task or some script to be run at specific time.
TIA
KayAre you sure, the command above store all the data and the object
definitions (which is actually data stored in the system tables) ?
Please make sure and confirm this.
HTH, jens Suessmeyer.|||Systems table data is not required for the time being. But yes it is.
"Jens" <Jens@.sqlserver2005.de> wrote in message
news:1132850534.307481.196070@.g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Are you sure, the command above store all the data and the object
> definitions (which is actually data stored in the system tables) ?
> Please make sure and confirm this.
> HTH, jens Suessmeyer.
>

Backing up Stored Procedure

Hi,
I am using the Backup Wizard with following statement to backup entire DB
from Development Server.
BACKUP DATABASE [Dev_DB] TO [Dev_DB_Backup] WITH INIT , NOUNLOAD ,
NAME = N'Dev_DB Backup',
SKIP , STATS = 10,
NOFORMAT
It doesnot backup the stored procedures developed.
Is there a way to backup the stored procedures as well through scheduled
task or some script to be run at specific time.
TIA
Kay
Are you sure, the command above store all the data and the object
definitions (which is actually data stored in the system tables) ?
Please make sure and confirm this.
HTH, jens Suessmeyer.
|||Systems table data is not required for the time being. But yes it is.
"Jens" <Jens@.sqlserver2005.de> wrote in message
news:1132850534.307481.196070@.g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Are you sure, the command above store all the data and the object
> definitions (which is actually data stored in the system tables) ?
> Please make sure and confirm this.
> HTH, jens Suessmeyer.
>

Backing up SSRS objects

I'm using sqlserver 2005 developer edition.
Unlike databases, there appears to be no way, in Management Studio, to back
up ReportSever.
How is it done?
--
Regards,
Gary BlakelyHi Gary,
Thank you for your posting!
You could backup the ReportServer database as you backup other databases.
In the databases, right-click ReportServer and then click Back up. Then you
could backup the Reporty Server Database.
Here is an article for your reference:
Back Up Database (General Page)
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms183383(d=ide).aspx
Hope this will be helpful!
Sincerely,
Wei Lu
Microsoft Online Community Support
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Backing up SQL with Batch - and Backup Name Prompt

Hello. I update our SQL QA server about four times a day and back it up
before every update. There are three DBs that I have to backup. Each
backup is given a specific name accoring to the 'Update Name and Number".
This take a lot of time to go through Enterprise Manager every time.
For one backup session the the backup names would be:
DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNumber_DB1.bak
DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNumber_DB2.bak
DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNember_DB3.bak
I know how to backup the DBs with a dos batch, but I have to then change all
the names which is still a pain.
If I could have a batch file that I click on and it prompts me for:
DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNumber and I could plug that in say: 092404_QA_Update283 and
hit enter, and it would produce:
092404_QA_Update283_DB1.bak
092404_QA_Update283_DB2.bak
092404_QA_Update283_DB3.bak
My life would change!
Is this possible? How could it be done?
Thanks in advance for any help!!!
Hi,
No need to write a batch program, Go with a small procedure which generates
the backup file names based on MMDDYYHHMinSS
See the below site for script and details:-
http://www.microsoft.com/india/msdn/articles/190.aspx
Note:
Change the script slightly to backup to local drives...
Thanks
Hari
MCDBA
"Tom" <none@.none.com> wrote in message
news:ewQtjdmoEHA.1800@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hello. I update our SQL QA server about four times a day and back it up
> before every update. There are three DBs that I have to backup. Each
> backup is given a specific name accoring to the 'Update Name and Number".
> This take a lot of time to go through Enterprise Manager every time.
> For one backup session the the backup names would be:
> DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNumber_DB1.bak
> DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNumber_DB2.bak
> DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNember_DB3.bak
> I know how to backup the DBs with a dos batch, but I have to then change
> all
> the names which is still a pain.
> If I could have a batch file that I click on and it prompts me for:
> DDMMYY_QA_UpdateNumber and I could plug that in say: 092404_QA_Update283
> and
> hit enter, and it would produce:
> 092404_QA_Update283_DB1.bak
> 092404_QA_Update283_DB2.bak
> 092404_QA_Update283_DB3.bak
> My life would change!
> Is this possible? How could it be done?
> Thanks in advance for any help!!!
>

Backing up SQL to a different server

I am trying to send backups of SQL databases and
transaction logs to a different server. I thought it
would work if the UNC name and path were used. So, first
of all, I don't if this is correct. I think it's trying
to do the backup, but the error I am getting
is "BackupDeviceFile::Backup device "\\erlfs1
\sqlbackups\..." failed to create. Operating system error
=5 (Access is denied.)" I have given the Everyone group
full control, and I still get the same error. Does anyone
have recommendations for sending backups to a different
machine?Make sure you are running SQL under a domain-level account and that the
account has permissions to create and write files on the remote location.
Logging in to the console of the SQL server as the service account and
copying files is a good way to test remote file access.
--
Geoff N. Hiten
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
Senior Database Administrator
Careerbuilder.com
"teresa" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1454601c3c33c$58da9540$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> I am trying to send backups of SQL databases and
> transaction logs to a different server. I thought it
> would work if the UNC name and path were used. So, first
> of all, I don't if this is correct. I think it's trying
> to do the backup, but the error I am getting
> is "BackupDeviceFile::Backup device "\\erlfs1
> \sqlbackups\..." failed to create. Operating system error
> =5 (Access is denied.)" I have given the Everyone group
> full control, and I still get the same error. Does anyone
> have recommendations for sending backups to a different
> machine?|||The SQL server is logged in under the domain admin account
and the domain admin has full control on the remote folder
that SQL is trying to back up to. Also, SQL Server Agent
service is started under the domain admin account and the
particular job is owned by the domain admin. I was able
to copy a file from the console to the backup server.
Looking at the event viewer, after a job has failed, one
error says "operating system eror = 5 (access is denied),"
another one says that the job failed and that it was
invoked by user 'sa'. I mention this because I don't
if 'sa' trying to invoke the job is the problem.
>--Original Message--
>Make sure you are running SQL under a domain-level
account and that the
>account has permissions to create and write files on the
remote location.
>Logging in to the console of the SQL server as the
service account and
>copying files is a good way to test remote file access.
>--
>Geoff N. Hiten
>Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>Senior Database Administrator
>Careerbuilder.com
>
>"teresa" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:1454601c3c33c$58da9540$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
>> I am trying to send backups of SQL databases and
>> transaction logs to a different server. I thought it
>> would work if the UNC name and path were used. So,
first
>> of all, I don't if this is correct. I think it's trying
>> to do the backup, but the error I am getting
>> is "BackupDeviceFile::Backup device "\\erlfs1
>> \sqlbackups\..." failed to create. Operating system
error
>> =5 (Access is denied.)" I have given the Everyone group
>> full control, and I still get the same error. Does
anyone
>> have recommendations for sending backups to a different
>> machine?
>
>.
>|||Ping the second server from the first using UNC (ping
Servername). If you can not ping, use the IP address (To
find IP...Ipconfig).
Second Check the the 'Domain Admins' group is added
to 'Administrators' group of the second server.
>--Original Message--
>The SQL server is logged in under the domain admin
account
>and the domain admin has full control on the remote
folder
>that SQL is trying to back up to. Also, SQL Server Agent
>service is started under the domain admin account and the
>particular job is owned by the domain admin. I was able
>to copy a file from the console to the backup server.
>Looking at the event viewer, after a job has failed, one
>error says "operating system eror = 5 (access is
denied),"
>another one says that the job failed and that it was
>invoked by user 'sa'. I mention this because I don't
>if 'sa' trying to invoke the job is the problem.
>>--Original Message--
>>Make sure you are running SQL under a domain-level
>account and that the
>>account has permissions to create and write files on the
>remote location.
>>Logging in to the console of the SQL server as the
>service account and
>>copying files is a good way to test remote file access.
>>--
>>Geoff N. Hiten
>>Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>>Senior Database Administrator
>>Careerbuilder.com
>>
>>"teresa" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>message
>>news:1454601c3c33c$58da9540$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
>> I am trying to send backups of SQL databases and
>> transaction logs to a different server. I thought it
>> would work if the UNC name and path were used. So,
>first
>> of all, I don't if this is correct. I think it's
trying
>> to do the backup, but the error I am getting
>> is "BackupDeviceFile::Backup device "\\erlfs1
>> \sqlbackups\..." failed to create. Operating system
>error
>> =5 (Access is denied.)" I have given the Everyone
group
>> full control, and I still get the same error. Does
>anyone
>> have recommendations for sending backups to a different
>> machine?
>>
>>.
>.
>sql

Backing up SQL Server: VDI or SQLDMO?

I am in the process of writing a backup software package, and I posted a
question here a while ago about how to best backup SQL Server databases, and
the preferred approach for implementing backup from a program written in C++
.
Louis Davidson recommended SQLDMO, but since then I've found documentation
for the "Virtual Device Interface (VDI) for Backup".
So now I'm wondering what the pros and cons are of these two approaches. To
judge by the documentation, it seems that VDI would be the preferred approac
h
since it provides the "the highest online backup throughput with minimal
degradation to the transaction workload".
Thanks,
PeterVDI and DMO are two completely different and are targeting two different
things
VDI is a virtual device interface for ISV's to develop SQL Server Backup
software so you can backup you SQL Server database and tlogs to for example
compressed files, remote locations by backing up over a pipe etc.
DMO is a management interface, abstracting programmers to learn or issue
TSQL commands directly.
Are you writing an application that tells SQL to perform a BACKUP or are you
planning on implementing a backup device?
GertD@.SQLDev.Net
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"jpstewart" <jpstewart@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am in the process of writing a backup software package, and I posted a
> question here a while ago about how to best backup SQL Server databases,
> and
> the preferred approach for implementing backup from a program written in
> C++.
> Louis Davidson recommended SQLDMO, but since then I've found documentation
> for the "Virtual Device Interface (VDI) for Backup".
> So now I'm wondering what the pros and cons are of these two approaches.
> To
> judge by the documentation, it seems that VDI would be the preferred
> approach
> since it provides the "the highest online backup throughput with minimal
> degradation to the transaction workload".
> Thanks,
> Peter
>|||Thanks for your reply. I'm writing an application that should be able to bac
k
up SQL server in the most convenient, automatic and efficient way possible.
In so far as the backup device resides on the internet and uses our
proprietary compressed and encrypted file format, I guess you could also say
that it's an implementation of a backup device.
You wouldn't happen to know the answer to my other question about SQL-DMO
and ATL style smart pointers?
Thanks,
Peter
"Gert E.R. Drapers" wrote:

> VDI and DMO are two completely different and are targeting two different
> things
> VDI is a virtual device interface for ISV's to develop SQL Server Backup
> software so you can backup you SQL Server database and tlogs to for exampl
e
> compressed files, remote locations by backing up over a pipe etc.
> DMO is a management interface, abstracting programmers to learn or issue
> TSQL commands directly.
> Are you writing an application that tells SQL to perform a BACKUP or are y
ou
> planning on implementing a backup device?
> GertD@.SQLDev.Net
> Please reply only to the newsgroups.
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
.
> You assume all risk for your use.
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> "jpstewart" <jpstewart@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:44B5C821-78C9-4C25-8951-9E4892825397@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||Sounds like a VDI solution to me. I will dig up my ATL example, it is
possible, forgot how I did it though.
GertD@.SQLDev.Net
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"jpstewart" <jpstewart@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your reply. I'm writing an application that should be able to
> back
> up SQL server in the most convenient, automatic and efficient way
> possible.
> In so far as the backup device resides on the internet and uses our
> proprietary compressed and encrypted file format, I guess you could also
> say
> that it's an implementation of a backup device.
> You wouldn't happen to know the answer to my other question about SQL-DMO
> and ATL style smart pointers?
> Thanks,
> Peter
> "Gert E.R. Drapers" wrote:
>|||Thanks, I would appreciate it!
-Peter
"Gert E.R. Drapers" wrote:

> Sounds like a VDI solution to me. I will dig up my ATL example, it is
> possible, forgot how I did it though.
> GertD@.SQLDev.Net
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> news:35978FC2-FB22-47DC-A3A7-0E90AC09741D@.microsoft.com...
>
>

Backing up SQL Server MSDE and Express

We are attempting to backup using a maintenance plan a database to a network share.

The backup job works within a domain but fails within a workgroup?

Any thoughts?

thanks

hi Larry,

Larry Sitka wrote:

We are attempting to backup using a maintenance plan a database to a network share.

The backup job works within a domain but fails within a workgroup?

under which account does the maintenance plans run?

does the account running SQL Server have enought permissions on the remote network share? or the account on which the maintenance plan runs?

regards

Backing up SQL Server express db that runs in user instance?

Hi,
I want to do a backup of my database that runs in User Instance. The
problem is that due to connection pooling the file is constantly locked
so I can't copy the file or perform a backup in Management Studio.
Does anyone have any tips on how to do it?
I assume I'm not the only one that has these problems.
Thanks in advance
/Mats
How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:uDBGGEYJGHA.3912@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I want to do a backup of my database that runs in User Instance. The problem is that due to
> connection pooling the file is constantly locked so I can't copy the file or perform a backup in
> Management Studio.
> Does anyone have any tips on how to do it?
> I assume I'm not the only one that has these problems.
> Thanks in advance
> /Mats
|||Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
>
Thanks for the reply.
I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to
select the database to do the backup on.
My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
I've tried this in sqlcmd.
1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO
DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
2> GO
But it complains about the reference to the database.
How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?
|||Mats Lycken wrote:
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to
> select the database to do the backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO
> DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?
The correct syntax is
BACKUP DATABASE CMSDB TO DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
(Assuming your database is named CMSDB)
You can look up the BACKUP DATABASE syntax in Books On Line. Here you
can also find all the various options you can use.
Regards
STeen
|||Use instances are special. You can get the name of the pipe from the parent instance and then use
that name to connect from your app where you want to execute the backup command. This is explained
in
http://msdn.microsoft.com/sql/expres...xpuserinst.asp
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to select the database to do the
> backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?
|||The database name is not a string. Try doing a "select name from
sys.databases" in sseutil to see what the database name is. Chances are the
backup command would be:
1> BACKUP DATABASE [C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MD F] TO
DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
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> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to select
> the database to do the backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO
> DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?

Backing up SQL Server express db that runs in user instance?

Hi,
I want to do a backup of my database that runs in User Instance. The
problem is that due to connection pooling the file is constantly locked
so I can't copy the file or perform a backup in Management Studio.
Does anyone have any tips on how to do it?
I assume I'm not the only one that has these problems.
Thanks in advance
/MatsHow about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:uDBGGEYJGHA.3912@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I want to do a backup of my database that runs in User Instance. The problem is that due to
> connection pooling the file is constantly locked so I can't copy the file or perform a backup in
> Management Studio.
> Does anyone have any tips on how to do it?
> I assume I'm not the only one that has these problems.
> Thanks in advance
> /Mats|||Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
>
Thanks for the reply.
I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to
select the database to do the backup on.
My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
I've tried this in sqlcmd.
1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO
DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
2> GO
But it complains about the reference to the database.
How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?|||Mats Lycken wrote:
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
>> How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to
> select the database to do the backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO
> DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?
The correct syntax is
BACKUP DATABASE CMSDB TO DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
(Assuming your database is named CMSDB)
You can look up the BACKUP DATABASE syntax in Books On Line. Here you
can also find all the various options you can use.
Regards
STeen|||Use instances are special. You can get the name of the pipe from the parent instance and then use
that name to connect from your app where you want to execute the backup command. This is explained
in
http://msdn.microsoft.com/sql/express/default.aspx?pull=/library/en-us/dnsse/html/sqlexpuserinst.asp
--
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23FBYdFaJGHA.524@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
>> How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to select the database to do the
> backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?|||The database name is not a string. Try doing a "select name from
sys.databases" in sseutil to see what the database name is. Chances are the
backup command would be:
1> BACKUP DATABASE [C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF] TO
DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23FBYdFaJGHA.524@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
>> How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to select
> the database to do the backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\CMSDB.MDF' TO
> DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?

Backing up SQL Server express db that runs in user instance?

Hi,
I want to do a backup of my database that runs in User Instance. The
problem is that due to connection pooling the file is constantly locked
so I can't copy the file or perform a backup in Management Studio.
Does anyone have any tips on how to do it?
I assume I'm not the only one that has these problems.
Thanks in advance
/MatsHow about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:uDBGGEYJGHA.3912@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
> I want to do a backup of my database that runs in User Instance. The probl
em is that due to
> connection pooling the file is constantly locked so I can't copy the file
or perform a backup in
> Management Studio.
> Does anyone have any tips on how to do it?
> I assume I'm not the only one that has these problems.
> Thanks in advance
> /Mats|||Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> How about just executing the TSQL BACKUP DATABASE command?
>
Thanks for the reply.
I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to
select the database to do the backup on.
My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
I've tried this in sqlcmd.
1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\C
MSDB.MDF' TO
DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
2> GO
But it complains about the reference to the database.
How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?|||Mats Lycken wrote:
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to
> select the database to do the backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\C
MSDB.MDF' TO
> DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?
The correct syntax is
BACKUP DATABASE CMSDB TO DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
(Assuming your database is named CMSDB)
You can look up the BACKUP DATABASE syntax in Books On Line. Here you
can also find all the various options you can use.
Regards
STeen|||Use instances are special. You can get the name of the pipe from the parent
instance and then use
that name to connect from your app where you want to execute the backup comm
and. This is explained
in
sqlexpuserinst.asp" target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/sql/expre...expuserinst.asp
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
http://www.solidqualitylearning.com/
Blog: http://solidqualitylearning.com/blogs/tibor/
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23FBYdFaJGHA.524@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to select
the database to do the
> backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\C
MSDB.MDF' TO DI
SK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?|||The database name is not a string. Try doing a "select name from
sys.databases" in sseutil to see what the database name is. Chances are the
backup command would be:
1> BACKUP DATABASE & #91;C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Dat
a\CMSDB.MDF] TO
DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
Use of included script samples are subject to the terms specified at
http://www.microsoft.com/info/cpyright.htm
"Mats Lycken" <MatsL@.newsgroups.nospam> wrote in message
news:%23FBYdFaJGHA.524@.TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Tibor Karaszi wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
> I'm still not getting it to work tho, actually I'm not sure how to select
> the database to do the backup on.
> My database instance is a .mdf file which I want to do a backup of.
> How do I write the backup statement to perform the backup?
> I've tried this in sqlcmd.
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE 'C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\SlottsCMS\App_Data\C
MSDB.MDF' TO
> DISK = 'C:\backup.dat'
> 2> GO
> But it complains about the reference to the database.
> How do I tell it that I want to do a backup of that file?sql

Backing up SQL Server 2005 Express

How can I back up existing SQL Server 2005 Express tables? I'm presently developing on a 4 year old laptop which is toooo sloooow and need to transfer the tables and data to a desktop system.

Copy the MyDatabase.mdf and MyDatabase.ldf files to the new system.

In the new system, use Attach... from SQL studio, to connect to the copied database.

backing up SQL Server 2000 database to named pipe

would appreciate if you could comment on how to backup sql server 2000
database to named pipe
Thank you for your help beforehand,
Miron.I believe you must create a logical dump device of the type "Named Pipe" and
then issue the backup to that device. See sp_addumpdevice in BOL for more
details.
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"miron" <nospam_berlin.miron@.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%23tu$B3JOFHA.904@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> would appreciate if you could comment on how to backup sql server 2000
> database to named pipe
> Thank you for your help beforehand,
> Miron.
>|||I am short on time. It would be nice to have a working script for database
pubs and a named pipe \\\pipe\mypipe
Thanks,
Miron.
"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
news:%235J$lIKOFHA.3512@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> I believe you must create a logical dump device of the type "Named Pipe"
and
> then issue the backup to that device. See sp_addumpdevice in BOL for more
> details.
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>
> "miron" <nospam_berlin.miron@.verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:%23tu$B3JOFHA.904@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>|||Try the following script to create the device and then backup the PUBS
database to the newly created device:
EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'pipe', 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP', '\\\pipe\mypipe'
BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO PUBS_PIPE_DUMP
- Peter Ward
WARDY IT Solutions
"miron" wrote:

> I am short on time. It would be nice to have a working script for database
> pubs and a named pipe \\\pipe\mypipe
> Thanks,
> Miron.
> "Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
> news:%235J$lIKOFHA.3512@.TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> and
>
>|||Peter, thank you for the script. While using lines I run into issues, some
did resolve, others still need assistance. Here is step by step
1.) create the dump device using the first line of the script
EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'pipe', 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP', '\\\pipe\mypipe'
2.) executed
BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO PUBS_PIPE_DUMP
and SQL Server immediately returned an error message:
Msg 3201, Level 16, State 4, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
Cannot open backup device 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP'. Device error or device off-line.
See the SQL Server error log for more details.
Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.
3.) modified the dump device as following:
exec sp_dropdevice 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP'
go
EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'pipe', 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP', '\\.\pipe\mypipe'
go
4.) tried to execute again
BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO PUBS_PIPE_DUMP
this time osql.exe cursor blinked for a few minutes. Then SQL Server
returned the same error message...
Msg 3201, Level 16, State 4, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
Cannot open backup device 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP'. Device error or device off-line.
See the SQL Server error log for more details.
Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.
5.) just to see how much time it takes to backup pubs I run script
1> BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO disk = 'C:\pubs_20050404003334827.bkp'
2> go
Here is SQL Server message returned when completed backup:
Processed 144 pages for database 'pubs', file 'pubs' on file 1.
Processed 1 pages for database 'pubs', file 'pubs_log' on file 1.
BACKUP DATABASE successfully processed 145 pages in 1.021 seconds (1.157
MB/sec).
and it happened in a mere second. So, it does look like I am close to
succeeding at baking SQL Server 2000 database to a named pipe, yet something
is not letting backup to complete in reasonable time. I guess what really
needed is a working script, that would allow to store backup and then
restore from it using named pipe. I do greatly appreciate any further
assistance.
Miron.
"P. Ward" <peter@.remove_online.wardyit.com> wrote in message
news:5ACAA03C-AC69-47AD-A638-F971557B2D5F@.microsoft.com...
> Try the following script to create the device and then backup the PUBS
> database to the newly created device:
> EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'pipe', 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP', '\\\pipe\mypipe'
> BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO PUBS_PIPE_DUMP
>
> - Peter Ward
> WARDY IT Solutions
>
> "miron" wrote:
>
database
Pipe"
more
2000|||"miron" <nospam_berlin.miron@.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:%23NM7zvOOFHA.1392@.TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Peter, thank you for the script. While using lines I run into issues, some
> did resolve, others still need assistance. Here is step by step
> 1.) create the dump device using the first line of the script
> EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'pipe', 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP', '\\\pipe\mypipe'
> 2.) executed
> BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO PUBS_PIPE_DUMP
> and SQL Server immediately returned an error message:
> Msg 3201, Level 16, State 4, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
> Cannot open backup device 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP'. Device error or device
> off-line.
> See the SQL Server error log for more details.
> Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
> BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.
> 3.) modified the dump device as following:
> exec sp_dropdevice 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP'
> go
> EXEC sp_addumpdevice 'pipe', 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP', '\\.\pipe\mypipe'
> go
> 4.) tried to execute again
> BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO PUBS_PIPE_DUMP
> this time osql.exe cursor blinked for a few minutes. Then SQL Server
> returned the same error message...
> Msg 3201, Level 16, State 4, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
> Cannot open backup device 'PUBS_PIPE_DUMP'. Device error or device
> off-line.
> See the SQL Server error log for more details.
> Msg 3013, Level 16, State 1, Server ZEBRA, Line 1
> BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.
> 5.) just to see how much time it takes to backup pubs I run script
> 1> BACKUP DATABASE pubs TO disk = 'C:\pubs_20050404003334827.bkp'
> 2> go
> Here is SQL Server message returned when completed backup:
> Processed 144 pages for database 'pubs', file 'pubs' on file 1.
> Processed 1 pages for database 'pubs', file 'pubs_log' on file 1.
> BACKUP DATABASE successfully processed 145 pages in 1.021 seconds (1.157
> MB/sec).
> and it happened in a mere second. So, it does look like I am close to
> succeeding at baking SQL Server 2000 database to a named pipe, yet
> something
> is not letting backup to complete in reasonable time. I guess what really
> needed is a working script, that would allow to store backup and then
> restore from it using named pipe. I do greatly appreciate any further
> assistance.
You need to have something reading or writing data in or out of the named
pipe, within a reasonable amount of time, or the backup/restore will fail.
Simple example using lzop (google for it) to compress backups on-the-fly.
start cmd /C isql /E /Q"backup database <db_name> to pipe = '\\.\pipe\bck'"
sleep 3
lzop -v -o<db_name>.lzo < \\.\pipe\bck
The sleep command just allows a bit of time for the backup to get started
and the pipe to be setup.
To restore the data :-
start cmd /C isql /E /Q"restore database <db_name> from pipe
='\\.\pipe\bck'"
sleep 3
lzop -d -n -v -c <db_name>.lzo > \\.\pipe\bck
You can also use this to make quick copies of databases :-
start isql -E -Q"backup database <db_name> to pipe = '\\.\pipe\bck_o' with
stats = 10"
start isql -E -Q"restore database <db_name_new> from pipe = '\\.\pipe\bck_i'
stats = 10"
sleep 2
cat \\.\pipe\bck_o > \\.\pipe\bck_i
(The restore command will need 'with move' parameters, they are not shown
for clarity)
(copy didn't work when I first tried it, so I used cat, copy /b may work)
Ian.|||Actually you can do it directly
backup database prod to pipe='\\myserver\mypipe'
Wayne Snyder, MCDBA, SQL Server MVP
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"miron" <nospam_berlin.miron@.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> would appreciate if you could comment on how to backup sql server 2000
> database to named pipe
> Thank you for your help beforehand,
> Miron.
>

Backing Up sql server

Hey, please forgive me if my infomation source was incorrect. But a friend of mine mentioned to me he had hurd of a program, or code that will make an "install script" of your database. Basically it`ll back up all the tables on your server and if the worst case senario happens then you can run the file like an install script. Is this true? It sounds invalueable! If it isnt true, can someone tell me if it is possible to use code to create a "install script" of your own database? I am using "Microsoft SQL Server".

Thanks in advance John

It's called Enterprise Manager and the documentation is in Books Online. You installed both when you installed Microsoft SQL Server.

Jeff

|||Your firend is right. This is possible to make database backup by scripts. :)|||

so its already installed with Microsofts SQL server?

It is possible to make a page on your site, (that only Admin can access) to create a backup using "Enterprise Manager"

Im finding it hard to find any infomation on Enterprise Manager on MSDN, or am I looking in the wrong place? thanks si!