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Tuesday, March 27, 2012

Backing up SQL 2000

Hello!'
New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if there
are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the databases
using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000 server.
Is there anything that should be excluded similar to,like,
the M drive on Exchange 2000?
Thanks !
CarlosThe NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a file level backup of
sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server Backup. The file level
backup will most likely be useless if you can even get it to copy while it
is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in BooksOnLine. It will
generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup process to copy and not
the original sql server files.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
quote:

> Hello!'
> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if there
> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the databases
> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000 server.
> Is there anything that should be excluded similar to,like,
> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
> Thanks !
> Carlos
|||Abdrew,
Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL 2000
and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the master
db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
didn't.
Thanks for your help!
Carlos
quote:

>--Original Message--
>The NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a

file level backup of
quote:

>sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server

Backup. The file level
quote:

>backup will most likely be useless if you can even get it

to copy while it
quote:

>is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in

BooksOnLine. It will
quote:

>generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup process

to copy and not
quote:

>the original sql server files.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
quote:

>news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
databases[QUOTE]
server.[QUOTE]
to,like,[QUOTE]
>
>.
>
|||The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If you mean you get a
SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something in wrong or
possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around the names. If you
could post the exact command and error it would help.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...[QUOTE]
> Abdrew,
> Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL 2000
> and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
> I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
> 2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the master
> db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
> recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
> didn't.
> Thanks for your help!
> Carlos
>
> file level backup of
> Backup. The file level
> to copy while it
> BooksOnLine. It will
> to copy and not
> message
> databases
> server.
> to,like,|||Hello!
The exact event id 208 is:
SQL Server Scheduled Job 'DB Backup Job for DB Maintenance
Plan "Nightly Maintenance Plan"(hexnumber)- Status:
Failed -invoked on date - Message: The job failed. The Job
was invoked by Schedule 4 (Schedule 1). The last step was
step 1 (Step 1)
msdb was actually set back to simple
Thanks for your advise!
quote:

>--Original Message--
>The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If

you mean you get a
quote:

>SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something

in wrong or
quote:

>possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around

the names. If you
quote:

>could post the exact command and error it would help.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
quote:

>news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
2000[QUOTE]
master[QUOTE]
it[QUOTE]
process[QUOTE]
there[QUOTE]
>
>.
>
|||By the way, no spaces in the DB name.
quote:

>--Original Message--
>The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If

you mean you get a
quote:

>SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something

in wrong or
quote:

>possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around

the names. If you
quote:

>could post the exact command and error it would help.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
quote:

>news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
2000[QUOTE]
master[QUOTE]
it[QUOTE]
process[QUOTE]
there[QUOTE]
>
>.
>
|||This is one of the main reasons why I dislike the MP so much. It can be
very hard to tell what is going on and what the problems are. If you can't
easily find the issue I recommend just creating your own scheduled job that
issues the backups so you can have more control over what is going on.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:886f01c3e9a5$e01c90f0$a001280a@.phx.gbl...[QUOTE]
> Hello!
> The exact event id 208 is:
> SQL Server Scheduled Job 'DB Backup Job for DB Maintenance
> Plan "Nightly Maintenance Plan"(hexnumber)- Status:
> Failed -invoked on date - Message: The job failed. The Job
> was invoked by Schedule 4 (Schedule 1). The last step was
> step 1 (Step 1)
> msdb was actually set back to simple
> Thanks for your advise!
>
> you mean you get a
> in wrong or
> the names. If you
> message
> 2000
> master
> it
> process
> there

Backing up SQL 2000

Hello!'
New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if there
are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the databases
using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000 server.
Is there anything that should be excluded similar to,like,
the M drive on Exchange 2000?
Thanks !
CarlosThe NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a file level backup of
sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server Backup. The file level
backup will most likely be useless if you can even get it to copy while it
is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in BooksOnLine. It will
generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup process to copy and not
the original sql server files.
--
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
> Hello!'
> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if there
> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the databases
> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000 server.
> Is there anything that should be excluded similar to,like,
> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
> Thanks !
> Carlos|||Abdrew,
Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL 2000
and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the master
db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
didn't.
Thanks for your help!
Carlos
>--Original Message--
>The NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a
file level backup of
>sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server
Backup. The file level
>backup will most likely be useless if you can even get it
to copy while it
>is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in
BooksOnLine. It will
>generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup process
to copy and not
>the original sql server files.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Hello!'
>> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if there
>> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the
databases
>> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000
server.
>> Is there anything that should be excluded similar
to,like,
>> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
>> Thanks !
>> Carlos
>
>.
>|||The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If you mean you get a
SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something in wrong or
possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around the names. If you
could post the exact command and error it would help.
--
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
> Abdrew,
> Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL 2000
> and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
> I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
> 2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the master
> db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
> recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
> didn't.
> Thanks for your help!
> Carlos
>
> >--Original Message--
> >The NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a
> file level backup of
> >sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server
> Backup. The file level
> >backup will most likely be useless if you can even get it
> to copy while it
> >is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in
> BooksOnLine. It will
> >generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup process
> to copy and not
> >the original sql server files.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Andrew J. Kelly
> >SQL Server MVP
> >
> >
> >"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> Hello!'
> >>
> >> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if there
> >> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the
> databases
> >> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000
> server.
> >>
> >> Is there anything that should be excluded similar
> to,like,
> >> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
> >>
> >> Thanks !
> >>
> >> Carlos
> >
> >
> >.
> >|||Hello!
The exact event id 208 is:
SQL Server Scheduled Job 'DB Backup Job for DB Maintenance
Plan "Nightly Maintenance Plan"(hexnumber)- Status:
Failed -invoked on date - Message: The job failed. The Job
was invoked by Schedule 4 (Schedule 1). The last step was
step 1 (Step 1)
msdb was actually set back to simple
Thanks for your advise!
>--Original Message--
>The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If
you mean you get a
>SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something
in wrong or
>possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around
the names. If you
>could post the exact command and error it would help.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Abdrew,
>> Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL
2000
>> and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
>> I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
>> 2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the
master
>> db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
>> recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
>> didn't.
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Carlos
>>
>> >--Original Message--
>> >The NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a
>> file level backup of
>> >sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server
>> Backup. The file level
>> >backup will most likely be useless if you can even get
it
>> to copy while it
>> >is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in
>> BooksOnLine. It will
>> >generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup
process
>> to copy and not
>> >the original sql server files.
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Andrew J. Kelly
>> >SQL Server MVP
>> >
>> >
>> >"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hello!'
>> >>
>> >> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if
there
>> >> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the
>> databases
>> >> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000
>> server.
>> >>
>> >> Is there anything that should be excluded similar
>> to,like,
>> >> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks !
>> >>
>> >> Carlos
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>|||By the way, no spaces in the DB name.
>--Original Message--
>The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If
you mean you get a
>SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something
in wrong or
>possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around
the names. If you
>could post the exact command and error it would help.
>--
>Andrew J. Kelly
>SQL Server MVP
>
>"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
>> Abdrew,
>> Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL
2000
>> and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
>> I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
>> 2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the
master
>> db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
>> recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
>> didn't.
>> Thanks for your help!
>> Carlos
>>
>> >--Original Message--
>> >The NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a
>> file level backup of
>> >sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server
>> Backup. The file level
>> >backup will most likely be useless if you can even get
it
>> to copy while it
>> >is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in
>> BooksOnLine. It will
>> >generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup
process
>> to copy and not
>> >the original sql server files.
>> >
>> >--
>> >
>> >Andrew J. Kelly
>> >SQL Server MVP
>> >
>> >
>> >"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> >news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hello!'
>> >>
>> >> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if
there
>> >> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the
>> databases
>> >> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000
>> server.
>> >>
>> >> Is there anything that should be excluded similar
>> to,like,
>> >> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks !
>> >>
>> >> Carlos
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>|||This is one of the main reasons why I dislike the MP so much. It can be
very hard to tell what is going on and what the problems are. If you can't
easily find the issue I recommend just creating your own scheduled job that
issues the backups so you can have more control over what is going on.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:886f01c3e9a5$e01c90f0$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
> Hello!
> The exact event id 208 is:
> SQL Server Scheduled Job 'DB Backup Job for DB Maintenance
> Plan "Nightly Maintenance Plan"(hexnumber)- Status:
> Failed -invoked on date - Message: The job failed. The Job
> was invoked by Schedule 4 (Schedule 1). The last step was
> step 1 (Step 1)
> msdb was actually set back to simple
> Thanks for your advise!
> >--Original Message--
> >The MSDB should be set to simple recovery as well. If
> you mean you get a
> >SQL error number 208 then you most likely typed something
> in wrong or
> >possibly have spaces in the db name. If so use [] around
> the names. If you
> >could post the exact command and error it would help.
> >
> >--
> >
> >Andrew J. Kelly
> >SQL Server MVP
> >
> >
> >"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:70a601c3e76d$71023f10$a101280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> Abdrew,
> >>
> >> Do you mean running the backup-to-file within the SQL
> 2000
> >> and then backing up those files to tape, etc?
> >>
> >> I have done that, however, when doing that within sql
> >> 2000, an event id 208 appears. I have changed the
> master
> >> db to simple recovery model and set the msdb to full
> >> recovery model. This should have resolved issue, but it
> >> didn't.
> >>
> >> Thanks for your help!
> >>
> >> Carlos
> >>
> >>
> >> >--Original Message--
> >> >The NT backup will only copy files. You don't want a
> >> file level backup of
> >> >sql server you want file generated from a SQL Server
> >> Backup. The file level
> >> >backup will most likely be useless if you can even get
> it
> >> to copy while it
> >> >is running. Take a look at the BACKUP command in
> >> BooksOnLine. It will
> >> >generate a file(s) that you can use the NT backup
> process
> >> to copy and not
> >> >the original sql server files.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Andrew J. Kelly
> >> >SQL Server MVP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Carlos" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> >news:742101c3e765$bef02c30$a001280a@.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Hello!'
> >> >>
> >> >> New to the admin aspect of SQL 2000, wondering if
> there
> >> >> are any advantages/disadvantaged of backing the
> >> databases
> >> >> using the NT backup utility found in Windows 2000
> >> server.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there anything that should be excluded similar
> >> to,like,
> >> >> the M drive on Exchange 2000?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks !
> >> >>
> >> >> Carlos
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >